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		<title>By: What to expect as an online community manager &#124; Community Building</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-24948</link>
		<dc:creator>What to expect as an online community manager &#124; Community Building</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 04:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] need to expect tantrums and bad behavior and you need to know how to deal with it, before it [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Gaston and Marie</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-22207</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaston and Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the other hand, there are communities that are notorious for banning folks just because.

For example, Digg is one of those.

They allow stories from Microsoft, the NFL and Major League Baseball, but ban anyone listing a story posted on small shop blogs, even if the blogs are not set up to sell anything commercially.

They have banned an entire college, Linda Christas College because their students are sposored by a group that runs such a blog.

One can run RAP, soft porn and abusive language on Digg, but let someone write an article about the history of Christmas candles posted on a blog that Digg Support believes commercial and you will be banned.

All Linda Christas College students wanted was for Digg to be fair. But, evidently that word is not in their vocabulary.

If we sound angry, we are. Our son is on scholarship, not from Microsoft or the NFL but from a small toy store in our town, ToysPeriod, which has a blog with beautiful uplifting stories, many of them written by college students.

However, post any one of them, the latest being how business innovation saved the Christmas stocking tradition, and Digg will ban you.

Hopefully the persons reading this blog will be at least intelligent when they ban folks.

Digg, a very prominent social bookmarking service, does not deserve its ranking.

We have complained to them, and, their reaction, of course, was to ban us as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the other hand, there are communities that are notorious for banning folks just because.</p>
<p>For example, Digg is one of those.</p>
<p>They allow stories from Microsoft, the NFL and Major League Baseball, but ban anyone listing a story posted on small shop blogs, even if the blogs are not set up to sell anything commercially.</p>
<p>They have banned an entire college, Linda Christas College because their students are sposored by a group that runs such a blog.</p>
<p>One can run RAP, soft porn and abusive language on Digg, but let someone write an article about the history of Christmas candles posted on a blog that Digg Support believes commercial and you will be banned.</p>
<p>All Linda Christas College students wanted was for Digg to be fair. But, evidently that word is not in their vocabulary.</p>
<p>If we sound angry, we are. Our son is on scholarship, not from Microsoft or the NFL but from a small toy store in our town, ToysPeriod, which has a blog with beautiful uplifting stories, many of them written by college students.</p>
<p>However, post any one of them, the latest being how business innovation saved the Christmas stocking tradition, and Digg will ban you.</p>
<p>Hopefully the persons reading this blog will be at least intelligent when they ban folks.</p>
<p>Digg, a very prominent social bookmarking service, does not deserve its ranking.</p>
<p>We have complained to them, and, their reaction, of course, was to ban us as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Reed - Community Manager</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-22140</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Reed - Community Manager</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 15:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kevin&lt;/strong&gt; - I just have to say that I love your mantra, &#039;be wary of the ban button, but don&#039;t be afraid of it&#039;. Excellent advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kevin</strong> &#8211; I just have to say that I love your mantra, &#8216;be wary of the ban button, but don&#8217;t be afraid of it&#8217;. Excellent advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Malone</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-22129</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Malone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s important to be relaxed in your rules, but not arbitrary in their enforcement. Also, even if you do not like to use your administrative powers, there are times when you need to put your foot down not only for the health of your community, but for your health. 

For example, there are trolls who will not be affected by argument, and will continue to try to rile people up no matter how many times they&#039;ve embarrassed themselves in their passive-aggressive replies. People like this are not affected by what is said to them because it is irrelevant to their purpose: to undermine your community. 

However, when you face a person like this, you need to be patient. Take action when necessary, and continue to try to work with him, but don&#039;t be discouraged in doing what&#039;s right because he mocks you. Allow him to build up his own case against himself in his posting history. After a time, you can draft your case, and remove him. At that point, it should be obvious to most there that his removal was for the best. 

Be weary of the ban button, but don&#039;t be afraid of it. By not being quick to take such extreme action, we get a more accurate portrait of someone, and we are less likely to make mistakes. Some people may change, too. I remember one member, for instance, who was trying to get a rise out of people, but was caught off guard when I treated him as a fellow adult and with politeness when I asked him to stop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s important to be relaxed in your rules, but not arbitrary in their enforcement. Also, even if you do not like to use your administrative powers, there are times when you need to put your foot down not only for the health of your community, but for your health. </p>
<p>For example, there are trolls who will not be affected by argument, and will continue to try to rile people up no matter how many times they&#8217;ve embarrassed themselves in their passive-aggressive replies. People like this are not affected by what is said to them because it is irrelevant to their purpose: to undermine your community. </p>
<p>However, when you face a person like this, you need to be patient. Take action when necessary, and continue to try to work with him, but don&#8217;t be discouraged in doing what&#8217;s right because he mocks you. Allow him to build up his own case against himself in his posting history. After a time, you can draft your case, and remove him. At that point, it should be obvious to most there that his removal was for the best. </p>
<p>Be weary of the ban button, but don&#8217;t be afraid of it. By not being quick to take such extreme action, we get a more accurate portrait of someone, and we are less likely to make mistakes. Some people may change, too. I remember one member, for instance, who was trying to get a rise out of people, but was caught off guard when I treated him as a fellow adult and with politeness when I asked him to stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Katy</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21923</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 14:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s reassuring to know that others face similar challenges, and even more reassuring to know that I&#039;ve handled them the same way as you. Thanks for the article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s reassuring to know that others face similar challenges, and even more reassuring to know that I&#8217;ve handled them the same way as you. Thanks for the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21900</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for writing a post on this. I have been trying to find information on dealing with these types of people in community. Again, another great community building article.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for writing a post on this. I have been trying to find information on dealing with these types of people in community. Again, another great community building article.</p>
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		<title>By: Great site! &#124; Stanni&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21722</link>
		<dc:creator>Great site! &#124; Stanni&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Forbes</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21608</link>
		<dc:creator>John Forbes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make rules, apply rules. No more really needs to be said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make rules, apply rules. No more really needs to be said.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Tipp</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21598</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Tipp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An interesting post for me. I think that  some people just don&#039;t get used to cope with another web users. And the same situation we have in real world. Just see how offensive can some people be. Internet gives them a tool makes them invincible and invisible (this is how they see it). That is because some people are just too immature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting post for me. I think that  some people just don&#8217;t get used to cope with another web users. And the same situation we have in real world. Just see how offensive can some people be. Internet gives them a tool makes them invincible and invisible (this is how they see it). That is because some people are just too immature.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/how-to-deal-with-bad-apples-in-your-online-community/#comment-21574</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 15:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is always critical to give your online community clear structures and guidelines to work to, and as you correctly point out it is unfair to penalise those contributors who you disagree with without have a clear structure in place. But they the reverse of this is how to manage your community without stiffling freedom of speech.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is always critical to give your online community clear structures and guidelines to work to, and as you correctly point out it is unfair to penalise those contributors who you disagree with without have a clear structure in place. But they the reverse of this is how to manage your community without stiffling freedom of speech.</p>
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