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		<title>By: Online community metrics: numbers you need to pay attention to &#124; Community Building</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-22073</link>
		<dc:creator>Online community metrics: numbers you need to pay attention to &#124; Community Building</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] purpose, you&#8217;re not offering anything unique, you&#8217;re advertising in the wrong places, your community is too hidden, or you&#8217;ve gone for form over function. I don&#8217;t think you could go more basic than the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] purpose, you&#8217;re not offering anything unique, you&#8217;re advertising in the wrong places, your community is too hidden, or you&#8217;ve gone for form over function. I don&#8217;t think you could go more basic than the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 95 things I have learnt in 9 years of community building &#124; Community Building</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-18925</link>
		<dc:creator>95 things I have learnt in 9 years of community building &#124; Community Building</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:13:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Never hide your community - it doesn&#8217;t belong behind a &#8216;community&#8217; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Never hide your community &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t belong behind a &#8216;community&#8217; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-18740</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 14:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you would have to make the whole site look good not just the forum. Also you shuld match themes or colour co-ordinate. People don&#039;t like sites with bad designs especially when they are cluttered with information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you would have to make the whole site look good not just the forum. Also you shuld match themes or colour co-ordinate. People don&#8217;t like sites with bad designs especially when they are cluttered with information.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Reed - Blog Author</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10632</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Reed - Blog Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Smiley&lt;/strong&gt; - I&#039;m glad to hear that your tweaking brought you such positive results. It just goes to show that a website is never &#039;finished&#039;; it needs constant tweaking and improvement.

&lt;strong&gt;Barry&lt;/strong&gt; - You&#039;re right; minimising clicks is essential. No part of your site should be more than three clicks away. I am not a regular user of Digitalpoint so cannot compare the effectiveness of contests held there as opposed to SitePoint. Thanks for bringing DP to the attention of other readers, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Smiley</strong> &#8211; I&#8217;m glad to hear that your tweaking brought you such positive results. It just goes to show that a website is never &#8216;finished&#8217;; it needs constant tweaking and improvement.</p>
<p><strong>Barry</strong> &#8211; You&#8217;re right; minimising clicks is essential. No part of your site should be more than three clicks away. I am not a regular user of Digitalpoint so cannot compare the effectiveness of contests held there as opposed to SitePoint. Thanks for bringing DP to the attention of other readers, though.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Cox - Scottsdale Realtor</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10540</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Cox - Scottsdale Realtor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what you did is great. I agree that having the forum on the front page is the way to go. Anytime you can minimize clicks I think you are better off. 

Also a creative idea about having a contest over at sitepoint. Digitalpoint would probably be a good place to do that as well. Thanks for the idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what you did is great. I agree that having the forum on the front page is the way to go. Anytime you can minimize clicks I think you are better off. </p>
<p>Also a creative idea about having a contest over at sitepoint. Digitalpoint would probably be a good place to do that as well. Thanks for the idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Smiley</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it looks better myself. You&#039;re much more &#039;up&#039; on these things than me, though. Your advice is greatly appreciated.

One day after taking your advice and moving the forums link up in the priorities, I have 4 new members on the forums, all 4 have posted. So, genuine members.

The chat room hasn&#039;t suffered a fall in visitor numbers, so in this case, a success!

I&#039;ll give Crazy Egg a go later - off out for a curry and a few ales now, though! Rewarding myself tonight. You know, I haven&#039;t been out ONE night since changing servers, been working non-stop to get the site&#039;s momentum going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it looks better myself. You&#8217;re much more &#8216;up&#8217; on these things than me, though. Your advice is greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>One day after taking your advice and moving the forums link up in the priorities, I have 4 new members on the forums, all 4 have posted. So, genuine members.</p>
<p>The chat room hasn&#8217;t suffered a fall in visitor numbers, so in this case, a success!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give Crazy Egg a go later &#8211; off out for a curry and a few ales now, though! Rewarding myself tonight. You know, I haven&#8217;t been out ONE night since changing servers, been working non-stop to get the site&#8217;s momentum going.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Reed - Blog Author</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10370</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Reed - Blog Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Smiley&lt;/strong&gt; - Only you can determine if it looks better and only you can determine if playing around with your site&#039;s layout will help you reach your goals.

It&#039;s always a good idea to have a play around with things and see how they affect visitor interaction. Perhaps you should even try giving &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.communityspark.com/using-heatmaps-to-build-communities/&quot;&gt;crazyegg&lt;/a&gt; a go to help you work out exactly what visitors are doing when they get to your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Smiley</strong> &#8211; Only you can determine if it looks better and only you can determine if playing around with your site&#8217;s layout will help you reach your goals.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always a good idea to have a play around with things and see how they affect visitor interaction. Perhaps you should even try giving <a href="http://www.communityspark.com/using-heatmaps-to-build-communities/">crazyegg</a> a go to help you work out exactly what visitors are doing when they get to your site.</p>
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		<title>By: Smiley</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10249</link>
		<dc:creator>Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I moved things round a little bit. Here&#039;s the two screenshots of the main page now. The top half and the lower half.

http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980583,ae2ar.jpg

http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980610,bdagi.jpg

Does that look a bit better? It&#039;s a good idea switching them around actually, because Chat Rooms is right there on the left on the main navigation anyway. People looking for a chat site are automatically programmed to skim the page and scan for &quot;chat rooms, click here&quot; so they&#039;ll easily find them. They would be more likely to skip over &quot;discussion forums&quot;, though.

I&#039;ll let you know if I notice any results from moving forums up on the main page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I moved things round a little bit. Here&#8217;s the two screenshots of the main page now. The top half and the lower half.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980583,ae2ar.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980583,ae2ar.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980610,bdagi.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.imageshock.eu/img/980610,bdagi.jpg</a></p>
<p>Does that look a bit better? It&#8217;s a good idea switching them around actually, because Chat Rooms is right there on the left on the main navigation anyway. People looking for a chat site are automatically programmed to skim the page and scan for &#8220;chat rooms, click here&#8221; so they&#8217;ll easily find them. They would be more likely to skip over &#8220;discussion forums&#8221;, though.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll let you know if I notice any results from moving forums up on the main page.</p>
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		<title>By: Smiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think I should put the link to my message boards above the link to the chat client?

I&#039;ll give it a try, can&#039;t hurt to experiment. A few people in the chat client do ask &quot;where are the forums?&quot; when myself or a regular asks &quot;would you like to join the forums?&quot;, even though there&#039;s a link at the top of the client etc. 

I&#039;ll put it above the chat link on the main page and see if I see a rise in guests on the forums.

Thanks for the tip, I&#039;ll experiment with it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think I should put the link to my message boards above the link to the chat client?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give it a try, can&#8217;t hurt to experiment. A few people in the chat client do ask &#8220;where are the forums?&#8221; when myself or a regular asks &#8220;would you like to join the forums?&#8221;, even though there&#8217;s a link at the top of the client etc. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll put it above the chat link on the main page and see if I see a rise in guests on the forums.</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip, I&#8217;ll experiment with it now.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Reed - Blog Author</title>
		<link>http://www.communityspark.com/never-camouflage-your-forum/comment-page-1/#comment-10202</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Reed - Blog Author</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 15:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Hair Loss&lt;/strong&gt; - It&#039;s a great image, isn&#039;t it? I get almost all of the images for this blog from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sxc.hu/&quot;&gt;stock.xchng&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;strong&gt;Smiley&lt;/strong&gt; - I would suggest making the link to your chat forums a little more prominent, perhaps through the use of an image right near the top of your index page. 

I understand that you consider your forums to be #2 to your chat forum at this stage - however the way the link to your forum is hidden, anyone would think it was priority #52!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Hair Loss</strong> &#8211; It&#8217;s a great image, isn&#8217;t it? I get almost all of the images for this blog from <a href="http://www.sxc.hu/">stock.xchng</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Smiley</strong> &#8211; I would suggest making the link to your chat forums a little more prominent, perhaps through the use of an image right near the top of your index page. </p>
<p>I understand that you consider your forums to be #2 to your chat forum at this stage &#8211; however the way the link to your forum is hidden, anyone would think it was priority #52!</p>
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